1. Separate the legal wrapper from the tax election
"LLC vs. S-corp" is a category error: an LLC is a legal entity; S and C are tax classifications. An LLC can be taxed as a disregarded entity, a partnership, an S corporation, or a C corporation. The legal wrapper drives liability and governance; the election drives tax. Most optimization work is about changing the election, not re-forming the company.
2. Default LLC / sole proprietor taxation
Simple and flexible: profit flows to your return, losses may be usable, and distributions are unrestricted. The cost is self-employment tax on the entire profit (15.3% up to the Social Security wage base, then Medicare portions above it). California adds the $800 annual LLC tax plus a gross-receipts fee that starts at $250,000 of revenue — a fee on revenue, not profit, which stings low-margin businesses.
3. The S election: the payroll-tax play, with strings
An S corporation splits owner income into reasonable W-2 compensation (payroll-taxed) and distributions (not payroll-taxed). The savings are real once profits meaningfully exceed a defensible salary — as a rough screen, we start modeling seriously around $80–100K of consistent net profit. The strings:
- Reasonable compensation is not optional. A token salary is the most audited number in the small-business world, and it also caps your retirement plan contributions, which are salary-based.
- California levies a 1.5% franchise tax on S corporation net income (minimum $800) — a real cost to include in the model that generic calculators skip.
- Eligibility is strict: one class of stock, 100 or fewer shareholders, and no nonresident alien or entity shareholders. Cross-border cap tables usually disqualify the election entirely — see our foreign-owned entity guide.
- QBI interplay: the Section 199A deduction is computed after wages; the salary/distribution split changes the deduction, so the "optimal" salary is a joint optimization, not a rule of thumb.
4. The C corporation: flat rate, two layers, and QSBS
C corporations pay a flat 21% federal rate (California: 8.84%), and shareholders pay again on dividends — the famous double tax. So why choose it? Three honest reasons: venture financing (investors and option pools expect it), profit retention (reinvesting at 21% beats top personal rates), and QSBS — Section 1202 can exclude substantial gain on qualified small business stock held five years, which for eligible startups can dominate every other consideration in the analysis. The wrong reason: parking personal income in a C corporation to defer tax invites accumulated earnings and personal holding company problems.
5. The California PTET overlay
For pass-throughs (S corporations and partnerships), California's pass-through entity elective tax lets the entity pay state tax at 9.3% and hand owners a credit — a workaround for the federal SALT deduction cap. Whether it pays depends on the owners' situations and requires a timely election and June prepayment, so it belongs on the annual planning agenda, not an afterthought at filing.
6. How we run the comparison
- Model 2–3 years of projected profit under each structure — federal, CA, SE/payroll tax, QBI, PTET — side by side.
- Stress the "reasonable comp" assumption against your industry data.
- Price the switching costs: payroll setup, additional returns, S election timing, built-in gains where relevant.
- Check the exit: asset vs. stock sale treatment and QSBS eligibility under each path.